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  • H1BLegal95
    02-13 01:49 AM
    it is the threat of a massive lwsuit from immigration lawyers association that made uscis backtrack and open up july 2 filing..we are all benefeciaries of that.

    itz not our flowers or the rally that did the trick it is the threat of lawsuit.

    if we consult lawyers we can check if we have a case and on what grounds. even f not anything else we may win on things like 3 yr AP relaxed ac21 rules etc. these are operational policies and dont need congress. USCIS can change these rules.

    there is nothign to lose but a lot to win.

    we can even appeal on the grounds that USCIS policies led us in to a bonded labor situation unable to change employer , foregone career choices and income potential..etc.. this violates the concept of free will and just labor practices. Many rules in AC21 and AP still try to tie us down to the employer who has already enjoyed > 5 years of our hardwork.





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  • walking_dude
    02-13 12:59 PM
    On the contrary, fight for keeping the country limits will kill the movement as Indians who form more than 80% of IV will feel disillusioned and leave. Once that happens ROW can as well kiss the GC increase good bye.

    Like grupak mentioned real workable solution is 1) Increase overall numbers (will benefit ROW as well as oversubscribed countries) 2) Eliminate the meaningless country quota. If there is an increase in overall numbers removal of country quotas will have very low impact on ROW. This is the fact.

    But there are still some fanatics who pick up fights to keep the country quotas intact. If all of them quit IV damage will still be minimum, when compared to Indians (80% of IV) leaving. Movement will survive and thrive. How many ROW were there at DC rally? Of those present, half were on the stage. Of course I'm exaggerating, but not by much.

    My challenge to ROW members who keep on harping about the split in the movement - PARTICIPATE!! Just being active on the forum and posting a hundred posts doesn't make you part of the movement. I hardly see many ROW members volunteering or accepting leadership roles. Unlike EB immigration, IV is open to everyone no matter where you were born. We don't have any 7% quota per country ! And yet, why are the active volunteers, leadership, contributors - the REAL movement- is disproportinately Indian.

    Want to influence the movement, be a significant part of it. That's real democracy.

    A row — also called a record or tuple—represents a single, implicitly structured data item in a table :) (I think the discussion becomes too hot, time to cool down, folks. The solution is not to remove per country limits, but to increase EB quota or at least to recapture lost visa numbers. Fight for removing per country limits will divide IV and is very unlikely to achieve something.)





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  • acecupid
    07-17 11:21 AM
    It is a "permanent" policy. There was no change in the law. USCIS was interpreting the law incorrectly. Now they have corrected themselves with the congressional input. This will not change.

    There could of course be a new law and then things might change.

    The was no change in law and still there was a change in interpretation based on the current state of EB2, so this interpretation will change once some other category needs spill overs. The is no law which states spill over should be horizonal or vertical or diagonal :) It merely says that DOS can decide how the spill overs should flow.





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  • msp1976
    02-18 10:33 PM
    In the past three years; I have seen an administrative assistant get sponsored as a skilled worker; a cook making $8.50 as a specialty cook at an Indian restaurant; 8 phillipinos getting sponsored as cooks with a wage of $9.00 at a restaurant; a convenience store clerk; (from reading administrative appeals decisions; i have seen a driving instructor, horse trainer, etc.). All of these jobs fit into a definition of "skilled worker" and share same eb3 category as professional.

    In fact I guess most of the April 2001 245(i) cases are also getting through the Eb3 category...I thought that they would get into the EB3 Other workers category with the 10 K cap........ I guess many of the cases you are referring to must be the 245(i) cases...


    As I remember, even when I came to US the first time in 2000, I was interviewed quite rigorously...They made me submit degree certificate and experience certificates and all...
    Cooks and driving instructors getting in on H1B??? That is news to me...



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  • alterego
    12-14 04:40 PM
    I know what I am about to say will trigger a lot of reaction and some resentment, but it has to be said on behalf of those who are not Indian. I think the per country limit is to ensure that people of all nationalities and races have an equal opportunity to obtain a green card and to ensure that no one nationality, group, or even sector (i.e. IT) monopolizes the so few visas that are available. In fact, in the visa lottery, countries become excluded when the number of immigrants from them reach a certain point, so we are lucky they do not do that in the Employment-based system!

    I think that by wanting to remove the per country limit so more Indians can avail of the green card quota is both asking for "special treatment" and a slap in the face for all the non-Indian IV members. The more I read the threads on this site, the more I feel that this organization is geared just to one ethnic group. I am sure that Indians probably make up the majority of members, but the founders of IV (I hope) did not want this organization to become one-sided! Please be considerate of ALL members and try to come up with suggestions that would benefit ALL members!!!:mad:

    Mostly agree with you about not wanting to alienate non Indian IV members. However you need to understand that any change won, however small or large will have some winners and some losers in it. Earlier this year, when IV was pushing for 485 filing without visa numbers, it was not very comfortable for those who had already filed 485. In fact, some even cancelled their membership over that.
    Some of us, who filed 485s years ago couldn't have felt good about that. In the end, the flower power campaign was done and worked, allowing 320K filers to join the 485 queue and those of us who we were floating merrily along, felt like we got hit with a tsunami.
    Yet we, each and everyone of us has to learn to look at the bigger picture and not look for our individual goals to come first. When we look at the stated objectives of the organisation, everyone of us has something positive to gain from it and should contribute in our own way, just find something to add your little weight to the effort. That is the kind of spirit we need. The collective force of everyone(guided by the core leadership) is what gets things done.

    In a way, it is about each individual taking some action to help himself/herself by helping the organisation. Whatever little you have done, think to yourself, if this action is multiplied by 25K what would be the outcome. Then you get a sense for our collective power.
    If you gave $100, then 25K*100= $2.5 million. Now thats a warchest!
    On the other hand, if all you have ever done is to come to this board and whine, then I sincerely doubt 25K people whining in private ever got a thing done. Now if 25K people were to whine to their congressman...................

    If each of those 320K 485 filers in July/Aug were to add just 10 Bucks to IV, imagine the impact. One can only wish. Of course a greater burden falls on the shoulders of an enlightened few, but hopefully as more poeple find ways to contribute, things become stronger. I'm impressed by the success of the 30K funding drive.





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  • gcfriend65
    06-26 12:34 PM
    The Visa cut-off dates are issued by the Department of State.

    Right now, the message shows:
    E. EMPLOYMENT-BASED VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS

    All Employment Preference categories except for Third �Other Workers� have been made �Current� for July. This has been done in an effort to generate increased demand by Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) for adjustment of status cases, and to maximize number use under the annual numerical limit. However, all readers should be alert to the possibility that not all Employment preferences will remain Current for the remainder of the fiscal year. Should the rate of demand for numbers be very heavy in the coming months, it could become necessary to retrogress some cut-off dates for September, most likely for China-mainland born and India, but also possibly for Mexico and Philippines. Severe cut-off date retrogressions are likely to occur early in FY-2008.

    Can you confirm the source of your information, that the August Bulletin will be showing retrogressed dates.



    Yes, the august bulletin will be showing retrogressed dates. But when August bulletin is issued in mid-July, it does not impact the petitions received in July, because the August bulletin applies to August and even if August is retrogressed until 1975, they still have to accept 485s until 31st July.

    That's what your lawyer said. Right?



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  • the_googly
    07-23 12:48 PM
    I posted this message on another thread and got slammed - :confused:. All the discussions here are just speculations.. no one really has access to real numbers.. so take it easy this time :p

    As we do not have any real numbers my predictions are based on EB2 numbers from (assuming the data to be a true random sample)

    Here are number of EB2-I I485 pending cases by year

    2007-100
    2006-150
    2005-125
    2004-200
    2003-50 (250 have been approved)

    USCIS has approved about 450 EB2-I cases last year. A conservative estimate of approval rate going forward would be 30 cases per month. Based on this the movement..
    2003 cases will be approved by Sep '08
    2004 cases by Apr '09
    2005 cases by Sep '09
    2006 cases by Dec '09

    Good Luck !!!





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  • potatoeater
    03-31 11:40 PM
    Chhota Shakeel planned to kill Varun Gandhi

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chhota-Shakeel-planned-to-kill-Varun-Gandhi/articleshow/4341949.cms

    Chhota Shakeel makes his entry into grand indian election mela :)

    What else is coming.



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  • NNReddy
    06-15 07:14 PM
    Guys, I am sure everyone in this forum will get greencard, unless they don't want it. You just need to be patient and wait for your turn. My priority date is 06/03 and EB3. I am pretty sure, I should get my GC by EOY 2011. I am in this country since 1997. Just hang on to your jobs or find a job if you loose one. You will get your GC. GC shouldn't stop you from pursuing your interests buying house or starting a business, there are always ways to do it.





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  • gc28262
    01-18 10:19 AM
    It is true.They were implemented stirctly. But to cheat that many of bodyshoppers are creating fake Paystubs. Getting just payroll expenses and tax from consultant and creating paystubs. How do you prevent that? When good faith effort fails more and more regulations are coming. If our bodyshoppers are honest there would have no regulations like that.

    Probably you are your relatives did these kinds of stuff. Most of us on this forum didn't.

    When did you get your GC ?



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  • Macaca
    01-16 10:53 AM
    Wonder what is being achieved from these "lively" debates other than feeding the other side with enough ammo to decimate all of us.

    The funny part is 80-90% is complete garbage.

    As one example, my physician aunt while moonlighting (contracting) met another moonlighter (through staffing company) who was paid 100/hour less then her and put in a cheaper hotel/room. And this is 25 years back when there were very few Indians, forget Indian staffing companies.

    Will the memo stop company from keeping unknown %? Will the memo stop layers of companies sucking an employee contract?

    One truth: Indian employers mistreat their employees. But this is well documented (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum89-news-articles-and-reports/776770-the-yanks-are-coming-5.html#post1141683) and across the board.

    I have no problem with any individual but I hate my ex employer and their class (in no uncertain terms).

    I was earning for them, but he and his wife used to behave like big boss to me.Why I shed no tears for them.

    You have a choice: Don't join them. It doesn't require a USCIS memo.

    USCIS and scumbags (Hira, Matloff, ...) have absolutely no interest in the welfare of these affected H-1Bs. Their motivation is 100% sadistic.





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  • _TrueFacts
    09-05 05:18 PM
    QUOTE=_TrueFacts;840961]breddy2000,

    Shame on you. thoo



    breddy2000,

    I have an excellent firewall against your filthy words and you are only denigrating yourself as PSReddy has said.

    Just b'cuz you are challenging me, to let you know, I have all your info, and it took 5 min to profile you on the internet. You have anything to say against the facts that YSR is a "a corrupt, factionist gunda, land grabber who has killed numerous people” then say so, otherwise just keep quite.



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  • aroranuj
    09-23 01:33 PM
    I am already a HOMEOWNER but I think this bill is good for all as those who buy new homes move out of the line & we move quicker. Congress works in strange ways & if the core thinks this is the best way to get around it & including current homeowners will be a dealbreaker I am for it....Lets support what we can get.

    I emailed half the people on the list & will email the other half in the next couple of hours...

    IV CORE: THANK YOU for thinking for every single possible way of getting us out of this rut...you have my full support!!!:)





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  • Googler
    02-12 01:38 PM
    I have the same question. State dept moves the date just so that the visa numbers are used for that category. If a category is retrogressed, then it can't really be "undersubscribed".

    This was listed at the bottom of the page in the March VB in state dept's website:

    The cut-off date movement for March in several Employment categories has been greater than those experienced in recent months. Advancement of the cut-off dates at this time should prevent a situation later in the fiscal year where there are large amounts of numbers available but not enough time to use them. If the expected increase in CIS number use materializes, future cut-off date movements could slow or stop.

    Mods should merge two identical threads. See my post in the other thread:
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=222365&postcount=12



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  • RNGC
    02-15 02:11 PM
    A person can kill himself to solve all his problems. But that is not the point. If I have come here to work and you have things setup in a way that it can be used to exploit you ( e.g. employer holding back your pay for no valid reason) that amounts to indirectly supporting slave business. The word "slave" doesn't make high tech workers comfortable because they don't want to be categorized as such. But the trouble they are going through is similar to that of the slaves that were taken by the brits in olden days for working at different places in their colonies. If you look at the way most of us work here, it is almost same. Someone (called ur employer) brings you here, he puts you in a place to work reporting to a differnet master sometime many. This exactly how slave trade was working in olden days, but today instead of us working in plantations or laying highways we are working on the building the IT super highway.


    I rest my case here for now

    I totally agree...its Modern day slavery!

    You cannot change employers, you cannot travel if you wish (after you apply for H1 ext, you can't leave US till it is approved, even If you have AP to re-enter!), you can't expect promotions, your spouse can't work on H4, No drivers license in some state, ..... BUT WE PAY ALL TAXES, NO EXCEPTIONS! Is it not Modern day slavery ??





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  • vrbest
    07-31 03:40 PM
    Thank you samay for taking time to answer my question.
    My PD is Apr 06 EB3-India. I filed 485 on Jul 23, 2007.
    Can I continue working for Company B until GC is received? or should I join company C before that?

    Whats your EB3 PD. You can join company C anytime assuming that it has been more than six months since you filed your I-485. Company C can start the EB2 process should you choose to. However bear in mind that this process will also take some time.

    Originally Posted by vrbest View Post
    Hi,
    I am on H1B (7th year and got extended for 3 yrs) and applied 485, received EAD from company A (140 approved).

    I am asked to join Client by Company A due to some benefits both of us would receive. But Client wont support H1 so I need to use EAD.

    Since EB3 is in very bad situation, Can I file new Perm, 140 and port my PD for EB2 using Company C for future position? I have position, salary and exp required for EB2. When should I join Company C if I choose this route?

    Thanks in advance!



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  • gc28262
    09-26 11:13 AM
    I sent the email to my local congress man who has an anti-immigrant stance.

    Here is the response I got from him( It is probably a standard response for financial crisis)

    ---message starts------
    Thank you for contacting me regarding our country's financial crisis and the administration's bailout proposal. It is good to hear your thoughts on this very important situation facing our country and I share in your concerns.

    As you know, Treasury Secretary Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke testified recently before Congress about their proposal to spend $700 billion to purchase the debt of financial institutions, improve our credit situation, and stabilize our economy. I reviewed the proposal carefully and, like you, I had serious concerns about this proposal such as the blanket authority removing Congressional or legal oversight, the implied reward for unwise financial behaviors at the expense of honest Americans, and the long-term expense to tax payers without a mechanism to press criminal charges upon those who are responsible for this situation.

    As a consequence, I offered an alternative measure. According to the Department of Treasury, there are two problems that need to be addressed: the short term liquidity emergency, and the long-term toxic mortgage asset holdings. To address the liquidity emergency, my plan would reduce all personal and corporate capital gains taxes to zero percent for one year, reduce the Federal Funds Rate (FFR) to zero percent for one month with a reoccurring month to month option, and allow the Department of Treasury to loan current funds to lending institutions at the rate of inflation plus three percent or LIBOR plus three percent. This plan would get the markets moving and allow Congress adequate time to address the mortgage assets situation while we investigate those corporations or government regulators who may be criminally negligent.


    One of my most important roles as your Congressman is to be a responsible steward of tax payer funds and, while my proposal remains an option, there are many proposals still being debated and it is unclear what the final product will look like. I will be sure to keep you informed of what happens as we move forward.

    ---message ends------





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  • snathan
    01-15 04:07 PM
    You are talking about unity of Indian . Just do a survey here and find out how they feel when being interviewed by AN INDIAN ? How Indian help Indian in any office ?I assume that Most of us don't like to see another Indian in USA and accordingly plan my course of action.
    BTW it does not matter what we like or don't like , they will do what they want. Just read how MBBS import program was phased out ?How civil engineer import program were phased out ? We have to accept this realty that one day this H1B program will be stopped .

    I really doubt that you are from losers guild....?





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  • dilipcr
    06-12 03:53 AM
    dilipcr,

    Don't tell us you are trying to save america for americans ( now that you are going to be a citizen)

    Nope I am not. I am suggesting that first let the deserving get the GCs and not waste time fighting for all

    You are just trying to close the door behind you.

    Nope. I want the deserving people to come in. My criterion for a deserving guy is that the person works directly for a company. If you believe my criterion is flawed then call it out. Dont go about saying that I have selfish motives. wage destruction not just affects me but also the future IV GC holders and citizens. So whats wrong in my calling it out ?

    You think Grassley bill is good for everyone. Yeah sure it is good for you !

    Yes everyone in America for sure and it includes the current H1bs and prospective GC holders

    You have begun to think like loosers guild( aka programmers guild)
    If by saying that the deserving should get the first opportunity to get in, I belong to the losers guild, then I salute your critical reasoning

    You claim the fittest will survive and you don't need any luck to survive. However you had your round of layoffs too. That is a fact of american job market. Luck does play a lot in people's lives especially here in US. I have heard of an IBM engineer who was laid off during 2001 recession. He had 2 patents under his belt. So nobody is immune to luck factor.

    There you go. No wonder I still come across the favorite Indian past time of attributing everything to luck. Yes I had my share of layoffs. Why isnt it viewed from a point of view of my tenacity of survive, hang on and push harder ? Why should it be luck that aided me ? So you want to twiddle your thumb hoping that luck would take you through this journey ? Why not take some action ? If I had sat in a corner weeping and blaming luck for my 3 layoffs in 1 year, i would not have been whatever I am today.

    Now that you have become a GC holder and soon going to be a citizen, you are so much worried about the wage levels and and L1 visas. You are ok with H1Bs because you were on H1B earlier in your life.

    Yes I was a H1B to start with. But I did not represent an outsourcing company or a body shopping company. I was hired by a top notch company named MSFT. Ever heard of the spell check and grammar check algorithm in MS Word ? I had put in my 2 humble cents in developing an algorithm for MS Word 97 product then.

    Did you ever worry about depressing citizen's wages when you were on H1B ?

    You still think that I joined MSFT then after depressing a citizen's wage.

    It is one thing to be so self centered, another to say it aloud on a prospective immigrant's forum like IV.

    If my self interest would serve a great good for the deserving what is wrong in that ?

    BTW america is the best place to do business. If you feel threatened by more work force entering USA, become an entrepreneur like Vivek Wadhwa, not a loser like Ron Hira.

    Aren't we Indians a bunch of crabs !

    Dude, Read Vivek Wadhwas findings carefully. He wants the best and the brightest to be provided unlimited visas. I agree with him completely. He is not for perpetual fraud and wage destruction as proferred by the outsourcing companies. Next time when you quote a defence, atleast quote something that supports your case not the opponent's :-)





    samay
    07-14 06:51 AM
    How should one answer Immigration Officer at POE "Are you working for your GC sponsoring Employer?" in case one has used AC-21 and moved to a same or similar job position in other company.

    It is best to carry your AC21 paperwork and tell them that you have invoked AC-21.





    apb
    12-14 05:24 PM
    I agree. But the reason for that is not the per country ceiling. It's the fact that the total EB quotas (140,000) is not realistic to the present situation. That needs to be increased and there's your solution.
    (Believe me, I do understnad your fustration. I really do)

    Even if we raise the limit to XYZ from 140000, if we still continue with 7% quota then applicants from India/China/Philippines/Mexico would still be retrogressed. It is not correct.
    Let everybody have a go at GC and let it be FIFO, irrespective of the nationality. This is EB and why use diversity if we do not use at the initial stages of bringing people from other countries on H1/J1/L1. These are the people who apply for GC.
    1) Increase GC numbers.
    2) remove per country cap
    3) Remove dependents from GC numbers.

    All above should go in simultaneously for a 'FAIR', 'NON_DISCRIMINATIVE' solution.



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